the vast majority of these immigrants are paying taxes. so if -- if the back tax provision shouldn't impact the vast majority of them. it details how much of a penalty there is going to be even if there is going to be one, beyond the back taxes, but i don't think it's unreasonable to request that. because they did sort of break the law. and so nobody out -- immigration reformers aren't going to get hung up over that. because if this is a way for us to improve their lives then that is a small price to pay. >> john: markos moulitsas of day dailycros. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> john: we'll be right back after the break. ♪ question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. what we need are people prepared for the careers of our new economy. by 2025 we could have 20 million jobs without enough college graduates to fill them. that's why at devry university we're teaming up with companies like cisco to help make sure everyone is ready with the know-how